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        <![CDATA[ Earlier someone posted that the whole incident was caught on video tape. That was erroneous. The incident was actually caught on a digital recorder and it is
rumored to be audio only.

The cop caught in the middle of this media storm had a personal digital recorder recording the entire incident as it unfolded. If this is true then the cop is
going to be hitting lotto soon and a certain chief will be forced to resign. No biggie especially since Ziegler was going to be forced out in less than 2... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: *UPDATE*Chief Ziegler incident caught on digital recorder by cop.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Agreed that both parties must adhere to it but like I said if you place your cell phone on the table an they say its ok it is implied that both parties have
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: *UPDATE*Chief Ziegler incident caught on digital recorder by cop.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ In NY State
<br>
<br>
As long as 1 party in a 2 party conversation AGREES to be recorded
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  then the recording is admissible in Criminal and Civil court.
<br>
<br>
Digital recorders are great.  I nailed the school principal trying to sweep the
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  school bully threating to kill my kid when I went to talk to him. 
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">narcoboy wrote:</strong>
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  It&#39;s Anchors &quot;AWAY&quot;......!
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<p> It is what it is:  weigh anchor, to raise the anchor</p> ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: *UPDATE*Chief Ziegler incident caught on digital recorder by cop.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <font size="4">Way back when (very late 80s or early 90s), I suddenly received a flurry of CCRBs/Chief of Dept complaints in a cluster. While none of them were
founded and because each complaint was so dramatically different from the actual interactions in question, I became convinced I was being set up for something.
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As a way to protect myself, I began carrying a micro-cassette recorder in a pouch on my gun-belt with a mic hidden behind my shirtfront. Since I was between
partners... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: *UPDATE*Chief Ziegler incident caught on digital recorder by cop.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <font size="3">Recording device:
<br>
If it ain&#39;t listed as authorized equipment in the PG, you ain&#39;t supposed to have it on you when working...
<br>
<br>
The exceptions would be under a specific assignment where part of an assignment requires it&#39;s use..It would have to belong to the department, thus, all
neatly written into the job description....
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Therefore, you have only the <font size="4"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">open radio key... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: *UPDATE*Chief Ziegler incident caught on digital recorder by cop.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ My job forbids recording devices, I am sure that is to protect themselves from lawsuits since they have plenty of recording devices.. As far as Bosses go, They
feel they can abuse you and most of the time they get away with it. But the best thing that I believe in is what comes around goes around... Therefore, When
you lease expect it, The boss will get nailed for DWI or Domestic Violence.... As a matter of fact, A supervisor did get nailed for Agg. Crim. Contempt... I
think that is... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: *UPDATE*Chief Ziegler incident caught on digital recorder by cop.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ There is no recording of this, if anything there might be a security camera video from a building near by.  If this officer let himself be go15&#39;d and didnt
tell them about the recording he is withholding evidence on this case and will be charged with impeding an investigation, which he can get fired for. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:29:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: *UPDATE*Chief Ziegler incident caught on digital recorder by cop.  ]]></title>
			<link>http://theerant.yuku.com/reply/38469/t/-UPDATE-Chief-Ziegler-incident-caught--digital-recorder--cop.html#reply-38469</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Is this true? was this incident caught on tape? Can anyone confirm this ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">PurpleScion wrote:</strong>
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  These are personal recorders that you choose to turn on when necessary. Ed will tell you that they came in extremely handy for his case.
  <br>
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<p> Er, I think he just did.
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			<description><![CDATA[ These are personal recorders that you choose to turn on when necessary. Ed will tell you that they came in extremely handy for his case. Just carry it in you
shirt pocket and the minute a confrontation on the street or a big boss arises just turn it on. It would be priceless to catch a big wig call you racial slurs.
Can you say CHA-CHING! At best it will save you from many a bogus allegation at CCRB and at worst you might catch yourself doing crazy crap but then again it
is your recorder and... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ just turn off the recorder while taking a dump look what happened to those narco guys. hahaahhaahah ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ did u hear the joke about kelly............. If he was a bus driver and Ziegler eric adams and the other stupid chiefs were all in the bus and it went over a
cliff who survives?............................................................... who cares ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:20:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <span><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_LAFmuAbIds&amp;hl=en" width="425" height="355" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" allowScriptAccess="never" ></embed></span> ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (NYPDiddy)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ There cant be a PG rule against recording someone.  The Dept does it, I know some units such as Highway video and audio record every car stop.  From what I
remember of NY Law to answer the question from the MOS in MA, is that as long as one party in the conversation knows its being recorded than its all good. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>It is definitely aweigh.
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<br>
And the video is out:
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<br>
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<br></p> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Arent they built into cell phones now? I hope the guys posts it on youtube ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (da job sucks)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:49:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Things have really changed in the past few years. Cops carrying recorders were always taboo with other cops.
<br>
Personally, I wouldn&#39;t work with a guy who carried his own recorder. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don&#39;t know about NY law, but here in MA if you record someone (audio) without their knowledge it is a felony - what is the law in NY on this???
<br>
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We had a perp audio record one of our officers during a call, the officer did nothing wrong but the perp didn&#39;t like the officers position and tone and as
he was finishing the perp said &quot;I have the whole thing on tape&quot; and pulled out a digital recorder. We ended up locking him up on the felony charge
and confiscated the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ It&#39;s Anchors &quot;AWAY&quot;......! ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Earlier someone posted that the whole incident was caught on video tape. That was erroneous. The incident was actually caught on a digital recorder and it is
rumored to be audio only.
<br>
The cop caught in the middle of this media storm had a personal digital recorder recording the entire incident as it unfolded. If this is true then the cop is
going to be hitting lotto soon and a certain chief will be forced to resign. No biggie especially since Ziegler was going to be forced out in less... ]]></description>

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