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ihateperps |
NO MORE SHITCANNING! |
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I think under current conditions now is a better time than ever to start taking the 61s by the book. DONT DOWNGRADE CRIMES. Do the 61 and MAKE A COPY for
you records, so it cant bite you in the ass. Another good thing is DONT SHITCAN shots fired jobs anymore. If you find shell casings or property damage, call
the boss and do the paperwork. Dont shitcan anything that can they can use against you down the road. Let these politicians especially Bloomdouche, see how
the city really is. We still have time to ruin his "legacy" as bringing down crime as he claims. No more summons, COLLAR everyone. Think about it,
when you collar someone it cost the city money. You get OT, Perp geta a lawyer, gotta feed perp. Do every collar by the book. Voucher everything. The union
needs to step up with the downgrading and shitcanning. Ensuring your union members are doing their jobs correctly is NOT against the taylor law.
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fatbobrob |
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l attempted burg= crim mis.
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sicopinsane |
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sounds great to me, but we need the zeros to step it up !
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FormerHelmetHead |
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On of the biggest problems you face with this is that most guys on Patrol don't know how to write a 61 well enough to spell out the elements of a crime in
such a way that the 61 can't be downgraded. If the elements are spelled out CLEARLY, with no gray area, then the changes can't be made.........
I know, all the responses are coming about how well each guy posting writes his 61's & they still get changed. I've got news for you - if you wrote them that well they can't be changed. There are the obvious ones, like "AT T/P/O C/V states his house was robbed." It's a no-braniner that one isn't going through as a rob, burg or anything else of a serious nature. If you write it for a burg you must show each element clearly - "entered or remained UNLAWFULLY, with the INTENT TO COMMIT A CRIME THEREIN". If you write it for a robbery you must show that force was used or clearly threatened. You can't just say that the perp threatened force - spell out exactly HOW he put the C/V in fear......... Until the 61's can be written properly there's no hope of beating the current system.......
Remember - Just because you're paranoid that doesn't mean the world ISN'T out to get you........
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WhiteDevil |
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Ummmm .. lemme get this straight. All these years I was supposed to be shytcanning shots fired jobs and sweeping shell casings down the sewer ?? Damnit !!
Think of all the paper I've wasted over the years by reporting this stuff !!! That wasn't very GREEN of me. 19 years of doing the wrong thing ... if
only "ihateperps" was there to train me.
"They ALL wear glasses. Why do they all wear glasses ?" |
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ihateperps |
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WhiteDevil,
Maybe you took it out of context, Im sorry if I offended you. All I was saying is we all know this goes on especially in commands where shots fired is the norm. Something as little as an upgrade in shots fired 61s would make someones bells go off. |
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warstoryteller |
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Of the crimes that are used at con-stat, the crime prevention Sgt or Lt calls back the comp. that is how the crimes are lowered. In the larceny cases the
victim will be asked it they have proof of how much they paid for an item. That is how grand larcenies are knock down. He comes a war story
The boss in 009th was being bombarded with robberies. He wanted the Sgt to write a 49 on all robberies in the command. He also wanted the supervisor to respond to the scene and interview the victims. Thsi boss had removed me from late tours becaus my sqd did not write enough summonses. He was complaining about the first quater of 1994. the year we had a lot of snow storms. I !%#$*+% and moaned but because I was a supervisor i had no recourse. Being put on mid nights cost me about 5 grand in night diff. The Bastard. he was a capt I can mention his name it was Richard Seta. Well one fine afternoon at the end of day tour I get an 85 with a sector regarding a past robbery. It seems a couple had got the train and were walking to their apartment when the male went into a bodega, and purchased a quart of beer. In the vestiable of their apartment they are acosted a home less gentleman who wanted their money. The victim said he had none, he had spent his last money on the beer. The perp grabs the beer from his hand and hits over the head causing an injury. Needless to say I got some ot writing a 49. Man was the Capt pissed. In November that year I made Lt, and got back on late tours where I belonged.
NO CHARGE FOR REAL POLICE.
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PDR00k07 |
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Don't the 61's have to be presented to the desk for a signature, where the downgrading begins?... How do u get by that one....?... :/
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I can t means I won t |
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It is a powder keg before all of these down graded crimes come out....
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FormerHelmetHead |
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PDR00k07 wrote: By not leaving them enough gray area to downgrade it. Write it properly & they can't just do it. Talk to your complainants & make sure they knowm that they need to be adament about things having occurred exactly the way they originally told you, that they shouldn't allow themselves to be talked into changing their story........
Remember - Just because you're paranoid that doesn't mean the world ISN'T out to get you........
www.jackbrownappeal.org www.helpeddieryan.com www.foplodge957.org www.orangecountyshields.tripod.com |
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sicopinsane |
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i think we should flood the system with collars, remember a summons is in lieu of an arrest, so FVck the ticket, put on the handcuffs and collect your cash,
even if you only get an hour or two in ot out of an arrest, we work 5 days in a row, so lets say all 5 you arrest, thats at least 10 hrs and remember VOUCHER
IT ALL!!
i hated vouchers up until a guy with 19yrs on came up to me and said "listen @$$hole, voucher it all and collect the money, take your time dont rush and collect the money" best advice ever! |
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fordham59 |
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In the 33pct during the 90's lunatic Inspector Joanne Jaffe decreid any reported burglary of a cable box will be downgraded to lost property. Anyone can check the 61's while she was C.O. and see we had a decrease in burglaries, and a huge increase in lost property. I then caught a police shooting where two 33pct cops shot a mutt threatening them with a realistic looking air gun (.38 cal. revolver). A stray round took out an innocent females eye (this is why we quietly went to hollowpoints). The DA and patrol sgt decided to make the 61 for assault, because the male confronted the cops with a fake gun and his reckless behavior caused the female to get shot. They originally asked for my input but I told them it did not matter to me what they put on it, I had to investigate it regardless. The real reason I said no is because Joanne Jaffe would go nuts over it and she did. She called me up in the squad from home and started screamimng about not going to Compstat with another assault "number". I told that lunatic (She was a incompetent, hysterical maniac) not to bother me I don't make 61's. But there are two different 61's floating around for the one case.
There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it,
never care for anything else thereafter. -Ernest Hemingway
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WhiteDevil |
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WhiteDevil,
Maybe you took it out of context, Im sorry if I offended you. ![]() Offended ?? ha !! I was being sarcastic .. just goofin with ya. Offened .. what
am I a liberal ??
"They ALL wear glasses. Why do they all wear glasses ?" |
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