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ForrestG man	Is FASCISM Alive and Well in America? You Decide.		Lead	[-]
Posts: 3138 Dec 17 11 9:24 AM	Tags : None Remove this ad Fascism Fascism is unique among the "isms" in that it has no intellectual leadership. Conservatives have Adam Smith, socialists have Karl Marx, and welfare statists have John Maynard Keynes; fascists have no one. Fascism is anti-intellectual. Its basic premise is that all truth is a matter of opinion and there's no sense discussing it; what counts is action. The fascist worships power. Because all truth is mere opinion, right and wrong are too. There is no real good or evil, and no justice. The only thing that counts is who wins. Might makes right. History books are written by the victors. Being anti-intellectual, the only leaders the fascists have are the activists who have tried to apply this no-truth philosophy. Tops among them was Adolph Hitler followed by Mussolini, Franco, and Tojo of World War II fame. Fascism is a second type of socialism--socialism of the right. The German Nazis were fascist, and Nazi means National Socialist German Workers Party. Like socialism of the left, socialism of the right means government controls everything and everybody. But unlike leftist socialism, fascism has no scientific theory and no view of the development of human society. It's just a pseudopatriotic, paranoid philosophy of hate. Kill or be killed. War is beautiful and conquest is utopia. Fascists regard the government and the country as the same thing--The State--and they are totally dedicated to it. They tend to be intolerant of minorities, and they want a strong, charismatic leader. Because he believes that truth, justice, right, and wrong are just matters of opinion, the fascist has a totally pragmatic view. He believes powerholders should do anything that appears necessary. Anything, no exceptions. He recognizes no moral limits because morality is just opinion. If raising taxes appears necessary, the fascist wants to raise taxes. If lowering them appears necessary, he will lower them. If raising the taxes of some and lowering those of others appears necessary, he'll do it. He cares nothing about right or wrong, good or evil, only what appears necessary. Necessary for what? For the state. For society. For the national interest. For the social good. For whatever the powerholders decide. Maybe even just for the fun of it. When Mussolini was asked the fascist plan for Italy, he replied, "Our program is simple: we wish to govern Italy. They ask us for programs, but there are already too many. It is not programs that are wanting for the salvation of Italy, but men and will power." Mussolini was Il Duce, "the leader," and he proudly boasted, "We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty!" In Italy he made all the decisions and he decided what was necessary. Famous slogans of Italy's fascism were, "credere, obbedire, combattere" (to have faith, to obey, to fight") and "Mussolini ha sempre ragione ("Mussolini is always right"). Under fascism, if lying appears necessary, the powerholder will lie; if truthfulness appears necessary, he will be truthful. If freedom appears necessary, he grants freedom, and if slavery appears necessary, slavery it is. If freedom for some and slavery for others appears necessary, that's okay, and if sending millions to death camps appears necessary, why not? Who's to say it's wrong? Truth and justice are matters of opinion. Perhaps the most dangerous characteristic of fascism is that it can appear as any other philosophy. Fascists are masters of disguise. At any given moment they can decide use of another philosophy is necessary. If capitalism appears necessary, the nation will have capitalism; if a welfare state appears necessary, a welfare state it will be. The "reforms" undertaken in China and the Soviet Union during the 1980s were textbook examples of fascism in action. When Chinese rulers believed a measure of freedom was necessary, they granted freedom, and when they decided shooting people was necessary, the killing began.
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ForrestG man		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3138 Dec 17 11 9:28 AM	In short, people can think they have liberty when they are actually living under fascism. Their "liberty" will vanish the moment powerholders decide it's necessary. The mailed fist in the velvet glove. In WWII, 120,000 Japanese-Americans were sent to prison camps for no reason other than that they were Japanese-American (70% were American citizens). None had been discovered doing anything harmful. This was a clear violation of the Bill of Rights, yet the President ordered it, Congress approved it, and the Supreme Court upheld it. Officials in all three branches got away withy it cleanly because held to be necessary. Interesting precedent? Think about it. Remember Oliver North and the Iran-Contra affair during the mid-1980s? Since 1979, the U.S. had been in an undeclared war with Iran; thousands of sailors and Marines were on warships in the Persian Gulf and hundreds of Marines had been killed by Iranian-backed terrorists. Nevertheless, Marine Colonel North had been helping top officials supply missiles to the Iranians--the enemy--but no one was tried for treason. Officials said they were doing what they thought was necessary release of a few hostages and money for the Contras in Nicaragua. This was considered sufficient explanation to excuse them. They thought supplying weapons to the enemy was necessary, and this made it okay. Think about it. Perhaps the best-kept secret of the twentieth century is that although Hitler's army was defeated and he died, the basic principle he was fighting for has swept the world. Listen closely to political debate. In virtually every case you will hear the various sides all agreeing on the premise that powerholders should do whatever appears necessary. They disagree only on the details. This is their core question, what is necessary? Not, what is right and wrong? No one tries to discover the boundaries that must not be violated, they’ve given up belief in boundaries. All truth is relative. Good and bad are just opinion. There is no line they will not cross if they think it appears necessary, as long as they can persuade the majority to vote for it. That’s the determinant of right and wrong--whatever the majority says. But Thomas Jefferson pointed out: “It is strangely absurd to suppose that a million human beings collected together are not under the same moral laws which bind each of them separately.” Of course, despite the victory of fascism, no one who practices it uses the word to describe his or her philosophy. Hitler gave it a bad name. I’ll finish with this thought. Fascism is the most corrupting of all political systems. This is why the crimes of Nazi Germany were so shocking. If a primitive society had created these death camps the world would not have been so surprised, but Germany was one of the most advanced nations on earth, a leader in science, technology, and the arts. Germans were educated, but they fell into the habit of doing whatever appeared necessary. 　 Are You…Liberal? Conservative? Or Confused? By Richard J. Maybury, 1995 Bluestocking Press, Placerville, CA pgs. 68-72
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crazybastid83		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4379 Dec 17 11 6:58 PM	A very good post. "Just step into the light."
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terry		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2960 Dec 17 11 7:44 PM	Why dont you finsh the cut and paste job with the point of it all? I.e., the biggist example of fascism in the world today is, guess who? - the US government! Forrest, you gotta get a new boggyman.
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BROOM		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9099 Dec 17 11 7:53 PM	I remember when it was a free country; not anymore!
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ForrestG man		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3138 Dec 17 11 8:25 PM	terry wrote: Why dont you finsh the cut and paste job with the point of it all? I.e., the biggist example of fascism in the world today is, guess who? - the US government! Forrest, you gotta get a new boggyman. There are better examples of fascism. But I'm not concerned with them. I'm quite confident that our military can handle them should they ever attack us. I'm concerned about the country I was born in, the only country that matters to me. I'm not liking what I'm seeing.
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BROOM		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9099 Dec 17 11 8:29 PM	Our country and it's people are basically sound; our Govt. is dysfunctional. A corrupt, incompetent, one way only (US) Govt. is worse then no Govt. at all!
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RetPDDet	Are You…Liberal? Conservative? Or Confused?	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3976 Dec 18 11 12:32 AM	Funny thing Google-Man, as soon as one begins to google the likes of ~~our~~ your newest Great Leader. One finds websites, like this one. Websites who also call themselves real conservatives, in fact, this particular one calls themselves Conservatives Network... Well, they seem to disagree with your sealed up bunker newsletters... Funny thing though, is that same re-accurring theme with you isolationists... What do you think that same re-accurring theme, would be google Man? Ron Paul Is A Lying Scumbag Politician With Borderline Sociopath Tendencies Posted by admin on December 7, 2011 in 2012 Presidential \| Short Link Ron Paul is the sickest, most twisted, scumbag politician to come along the political landscape in a long time. He’s a borderline sociopath. This scumbag sociopath profited off of newsletters written in his name that contained racist and anti-Jew content. He did this for about two decades. (I’ll post links to all that at the bottom of this entry.) He even defended these newsletters in 1996 with the Dallas Morning News. Here’s a couple links. Link Link Of course now he denies he even knew about the newsletters. Which is total sociopath hogwash, considering he defended them in 1996. Here’s his standard denial. Link He can claim it’s old news, but this just follows his sociopath and lying behavioral pattern. Paul’s scumbag, lying sociopath tendencies don’t end with his full blown racism for two decades and then his convenient denial years later. That is just the tip of this sociopath iceberg. In his 1988 run for president on the Libertarian ticket, he totally disowned Ronald Reagan. He called him a failure. You can read Paul’s backstabbing manifesto here. Yet in a 2011 television ad, Ron Paul gets all friendly with Reagan and acts like they were on the same side all along. You can view that ad here. Are you seeing the pattern? He’s exhibiting the behavior of a sick, twisted, self-serving, lying sociopath. One year he’s the racist, Jew hating newsletter defender. In another year he outright denies knowledge of it. One year he’s the anti-Reagan candidate. Then another year he acts like he’s supported Reagan all along. Clear signs of a lying, scumbag sociopath politician. You can observe Ron Paul’s lying sociopath behavior in his stance on term limits. He wrote a bill for them and even defends them. Read about it here. Yet he’s served over 20 years in Congress. He’ll defend this by saying he wasn’t running on mandatory term limits. Or he’ll say that since it didn’t pass he can stay in office. You can listen to his sociopath lying explanation here. This is all highly ironic because he claims to be a man who governs based on his convictions. Well if his conviction is that term limits are good, shouldn’t he follow those convictions and not serve for over 20 years? You may say, “Well term limits aren’t the law so he shouldn’t have to leave.” Now wait! If this is a man who follows his convictions and if he’s a man who doesn’t rely on the government to force him to do anything, then isn’t he a total hypocrite for not following his convictions on this issue? Isn’t he a hypocrite for demanding the government pass a law in order for him to carry out his personal conviction on term limits? The answer is an obvious, yes, he is a hypocrite on that one too. I could keep going, but I think you get the point. Ron Paul is clearly a sick, twisted, lying scumbag politician with sociopath tendencies. He defends racism and anti-Jew content one year, then denies it even happened later. One year he stabs Reagan in the back with anti-Reagan talk, then another year he acts like they were friends all along. One year he proposes and supports term limits, and then he turns right around and serves over 20 years while giving twisted justifications for going against his own convictions. Ron Paul is a lying, twisted, scumbag politician with sociopath tendencies. I don’t expect Ron Paul supporters to be convinced, even though I have documented evidence to support my truth. Paul supporters are much like their cult leader messiah. They too are sick, twisted liars with sociopath tendencies. They are peas in the same lunatic pod. I will not allow Ron Paul supporters to comment on this article. Conservatives Network is a Ron Paul supporter free zone. Conservatives deserve one place online where we don’t have to hear your lying, twisted, sick, sociopath blathering hogwash. I know that some Paul supporters will scheme for hours, trying to find a way to get their blather on this site. Listen Paul supporters, you won’t be allowed to post. No matter how much scheming you do. But I know some of you will still scheme for hours or type up long winded entries anyways. Racist Newsletter Links Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link ********************************************************* i dunnoknow Google-Man, but maybe, just maybe there's a real reason, why, the vast majority of Americans, think Ron Paul is a clueless groin-achologist. Hope, I didn't spill any drinks at the bunker meeting... But you true Conservatives, need to get togther and come up with a plan, or maybe a Union..
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RetPDDet		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3976 Dec 18 11 1:03 AM	Oh shyte I forgot something, Google-Man..and it's this. I'll take the collective efforts of LTC North and POTUS Reagan, (leaders I will term as American men of action), to keep my nation and my family safe. Not only anytime, but everytime, over the lunitic rantings of America's Bunker Militia. It seems to many that in the 1930-40’s era, those years leading up to the Second World War. That a reasonable argument could be made, that your America First group was little more than a group of men from predominantly Nordic ancestry. Groups of men who lived in, and were elected in, states like 1930-40’s North Dakota. Groups who supported the actions of Nazi Germany and the atrocities taking place in independent nations like Poland, the Sudetenland, and the bombing of England, etc. It also appears that when it pertains to any real global fascism. The spread of Nazi Germany and murder of millions of innocent civilians, was not only supported by AF’s people. Men like your speaking sphincters Senator Gerald Nye and Charles Lindbergh. These men directly contributed to Fascism’s spread by delaying America’s entry into Europe’s war. Any thoughts on the millions of lives that may have been saved, in 1939-45? After all many historians on the rise of the Third Reich and their fuckin’mad man Hitler, agree that IF the western allies stood to prevent Hitler’s further blitzkrieg after Poland. That Hitler himself may have stopped his spread into other parts of Europe. Do you think there is any blood on the hands of men like Nye and Lindberg, Joe Kennedy ? No of course not, for it was the Fatherland retaliating against Wilson’s war, and furthermore it was simply Jews, Gypsies and Fags being burned, so then it’s never labeled as fascism, it’s called progress. This is how, fascism flourishes against the forces of good, there Google-Man…straight from your favorite source Wikiepiedia… On June 20, 1941 Lindbergh spoke to a rally in Los Angeles billed as "Peace and Preparedness Mass Meeting". In his speech of that day, Lindbergh criticized those movements he perceived as *leading America into the war.* He proclaimed that the United States was in a position that made it virtually impregnable and he pointed out that when interventionists said "the defense of England" they really meant "*defeat of Germany." Lindbergh's presence at the Hollywood Bowl rally was overshadowed, however, by the presence of fringe elements in the crowd. (Gee I wonder exactly who these people were? Were day daJues, daKneegars, daSpicks? What type of fringe element would support a policy of preventing America from defeating a fascist NAZI Germany?)* It continues; Nothing did more to escalate the tensions than the speech he delivered to a rally in Des Moines, Iowa on September 11, 1941. (less than 3 months before the devastation of Pearl Harbor) In that speech he identified the forces pulling America into the war as the British, the Roosevelt administration, and the Jews. Does any of this rhetoric sound familiar, It should it’s the same shyte you post here
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Posts: 705 Dec 18 11 1:09 AM	RetPDDet wrote: Ron Paul Is A Lying Scumbag Politician With Borderline Sociopath Tendencies Posted by admin on December 7, 2011 in 2012 Presidential \| Short Link Ron Paul is the sickest, most twisted, scumbag politician to come along the political landscape in a long time. He’s a borderline sociopath. Holy Crap!!!! Now I know they are really afraid of this guy.....
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Elmo334	There is definately something wrong with this guy. He also won't rule out runnig as an independant, which could give Obama a second term.	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4614 Dec 18 11 8:30 AM	Remove this ad http://www.mrctv.org/videos/ron-paul-bachmann-hates-muslims-santorum-only-talks-about-gays-and-muslims Edited 1 time by Elmo334 Dec 18 11 8:32 AM.
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Posts: 2549 Dec 18 11 8:53 AM	I dont see anything wrong with what he said, he seems to be speaking of what he sees. He doesn't really hold back much and people hate him for that. Instead of calling him a "Straight shooter" like Newt, they call him a wackjob. Sad. He knows those people better than anyone on the rant, and if these are his observations of the other candidates than perhaps there is something to it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I sometimes wish that people would put a little more emphasis upon the observance of the law than they do upon its enforcement. - Calvin Coolidge
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ForrestG man		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3138 Dec 18 11 9:31 AM	RetPDDet wrote: Ron Paul Is A Lying Scumbag Politician With Borderline Sociopath Tendencies Posted by admin on December 7, 2011 in 2012 Presidential \| Short Link Ron Paul is the sickest, most twisted, scumbag politician to come along the political landscape in a long time. He’s a borderline sociopath. This scumbag sociopath profited off of newsletters written in his name that contained racist and anti-Jew content. He did this for about two decades. (I’ll post links to all that at the bottom of this entry.) He even defended these newsletters in 1996 with the Dallas Morning News. Here’s a couple links. Link Link Hey, RetDet, you're a little disoriented. I mean even more than usual. You probably meant to post this over on the Ron Paul Draws Big Crowds and Many Undecided Voters in Iowa thread. Ron's got Flip and Flop and their supporters like you runnin' scared. I understand. See you on the other thread.
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Elmo334		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4614 Dec 18 11 9:36 AM	I dont see anything wrong with what he said, he seems to be speaking of what he sees. Of course you don't see anything wrong! This is one of the main tactics of the left; demonize your opponent and reduce him down to a sound bite that can be repeated over and over. After all the debates and interveiws he reduces two candidates to "all they care about is muslims and gays"! He doesn't really hold back much and people hate him for that. Instead of calling him a "Straight shooter" like Newt, they call him a wackjob. Sad. You also have to listen to what he says. Thinking Iran can be talked out of a nuclear weapon by us being nice to them is stable thinking? Forgettiung that Obama has tried that and failed miserably, he still thinks it will work! He knows those people better than anyone on the rant, and if these are his observations of the other candidates than perhaps there is something to it. Again the left trying to reduce people down to one sentence or soundbite so they can get it in people's heads that they are evil!
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ForrestG man		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3138 Dec 18 11 9:59 AM	RetPDDet wrote: Oh shyte I forgot something, Google-Man..and it's this. I'll take the collective efforts of LTC North and POTUS Reagan, (leaders I will term as American men of action), to keep my nation and my family safe. Not only anytime, but everytime, over the lunitic rantings of America's Bunker Militia. Of course you like like Oliver North. He was a man of action. He wore a military uniform and he did what he thought was necessary. That kind of thing turns you on. "Remember Oliver North and the Iran-Contra affair during the mid-1980s? Since 1979, the U.S. had been in an undeclared war with Iran; thousands of sailors and Marines were on warships in the Persian Gulf and hundreds of Marines had been killed by Iranian-backed terrorists. Nevertheless, Marine Colonel North had been helping top officials supply missiles to the Iranians--the enemy--but no one was tried for treason. Officials said they were doing what they thought was necessary release of a few hostages and money for the Contras in Nicaragua. This was considered sufficient explanation to excuse them. They thought supplying weapons to the enemy was necessary, and this made it okay. Think about it."
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ForrestG man		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3138 Dec 18 11 10:59 AM	It seems to many that in the 1930-40’s era, those years leading up to the Second World War. That a reasonable argument could be made, that your America First group was little more than a group of men from predominantly Nordic ancestry. Groups of men who lived in, and were elected in, states like 1930-40’s North Dakota. Groups who supported the actions of Nazi Germany and the atrocities taking place in independent nations like Poland, the Sudetenland, and the bombing of England, etc. It also appears that when it pertains to any real global fascism. The spread of Nazi Germany and murder of millions of innocent civilians, was not only supported by AF’s people. Men like your speaking sphincters Senator Gerald Nye and Charles Lindbergh. These men directly contributed to Fascism’s spread by delaying America’s entry into Europe’s war. Any thoughts on the millions of lives that may have been saved, in 1939-45? After all many historians on the rise of the Third Reich and their fuckin’mad man Hitler, agree that IF the western allies stood to prevent Hitler’s further blitzkrieg after Poland. That Hitler himself may have stopped his spread into other parts of Europe. Those damn...Scandinavians? And I thought that Hitler invaded Norway. So your point is what, that the America Firsters were not real Americans? America Firsters contributed to fascism's spread by delaying America's entry into the war? Awww shucks, we could have gotten in on the action at Stalingrad from Aug '42 to Feb. '43. Various scholars have estimated the Axis suffered from 500,000-850,000 casualties (killed, wounded, captured) among all branches of the German armed forces and its allies, many of them POWs who died in Soviet captivity between 1943 and 1955. According to archival figures, the Red Army suffered a total of 1,129,619 total casualties; 478,741 men killed or missing and 650,878 wounded. 1.1 million dead. And you know what? I'm glad that none of them were Americans. The blitzkreig of Poland. The British had a treaty with them and declared war. So that's enough for you. That should have been our ticket in. What happened to Poland after the war? Oh, that's right. Stalin got Poland. It would seem that Poland wasn't so important after all. ------------ "Because he believes that truth, justice, right, and wrong are just matters of opinion, the fascist has a totally pragmatic view. He believes powerholders should do anything that appears necessary. Anything, no exceptions. He recognizes no moral limits because morality is just opinion. Under fascism, if lying appears necessary, the powerholder will lie; if truthfulness appears necessary, he will be truthful." -------------------- Roosevelt was a man of action. He used the Lend-Lease Act to get around neutrality laws. A powerholder who did whatever was necessary. If lying was necessary, he lied. He had the U.S. Navy patrolling to alert the British about German submarines. When the Greer was torpedoed Roosevelt lied and said that it was on a peaceful mail run to Iceland. An outrageous act of "piracy" he called it. In fact, the Greer had been tracking the submarine for several hours, signaling its location to British air forces that dropped depth charges on the sub--as, in turn, did the Greer itself. As Winston Curchill confided privately to aids, FDR had made clear to him that he intended to become more and more provocative, and that, in Churchill's words, "everything was to be done to provoke an incident." Then there was the 'secret map' that FDR possessed that showed a Nazi invasion plan for South America, from which the Germans would be in a position to launch an attack on the United States. Americans were expected to believe that Hitler's forces, which could not get across the English Channel, were poised to cross the Atlantic Ocean and take over an entire continent. Few Americans bought that scenario. And their instincts were right: FDR had made the whole thing up. Fascism did not die with Hitler.
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Posts: 13842 Dec 18 11 9:38 PM	More America bashing. Kiss the ground you walk on my friend, this is the most free country in the world or that ever existed. In England, lible wars stifle free speech. In France, the police stop people at random and demand I.D., Forget about S. American and Asia. WHat facist country allows 12 million illegals to roam free. What facist country allows dangerous criminals out on technicalities. What an assinine comment to make. There is something wrong with the people who eat up this nonesense. Every cop knows that the last 4-5 decades have seen a huge expansion of defendants rights. Thats facism? WTF? When I was a kid, the police would toss you a beating for any minor misdeed. Now their hands are often tied. Everyone on this board should know that. But some chose to eat up what they read on wacky websites. No member of law enforcement should ever join the NRA after they referred to federal law enforcement as 'jack booted thugs'. Thats when George H.W. Bush publicly quit. There are other gun rights lobbying groups that do not demean our fellow law enforcement officers. Its one thing to attack the laws or the lawmakers, but I will not join a group that demeans fellow law enforcement officers.
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Posts: 13842 Dec 18 11 9:59 PM	Oh, and one more: In a facist states, Federal Law Enforcement officers could not post their support for the dissolution of the goverment, like FOrrest does. They could not call the Federal Goverment the real enemy. Dontcha think? No member of law enforcement should ever join the NRA after they referred to federal law enforcement as 'jack booted thugs'. Thats when George H.W. Bush publicly quit. There are other gun rights lobbying groups that do not demean our fellow law enforcement officers. Its one thing to attack the laws or the lawmakers, but I will not join a group that demeans fellow law enforcement officers.
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ForrestG man		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3138 Dec 19 11 10:31 AM	lawmanbrooklyn wrote: More America bashing. WHat facist country allows 12 million illegals to roam free. What facist country allows dangerous criminals out on technicalities. Every cop knows that the last 4-5 decades have seen a huge expansion of defendants rights. Thats facism? WTF? America bashing? No. Government bashing? Absolutely. Fascists regard the government and the country as the same thing--The State--and they are totally dedicated to it. 12 million illegals running free? It's probably more than that. Many of them are not self sufficient in that they are a drain on the taxpayer. Good deal for the illegal. Not so good for the taxpayer who is a slave, in a manner of speaking. Under fascism, if lying appears necessary, the powerholder will lie; if truthfulness appears necessary, he will be truthful. If freedom appears necessary, he grants freedom, and if slavery appears necessary, slavery it is. Perhaps the most dangerous characteristic of fascism is that it can appear as any other philosophy. Fascists are masters of disguise. At any given moment they can decide use of another philosophy is necessary.
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Posts: 3138 Dec 19 11 10:59 AM	"Like socialism of the left, socialism of the right means government controls everything and everybody. But unlike leftist socialism, fascism has no scientific theory and no view of the development of human society. It's just a pseudopatriotic, paranoid philosophy of hate. Kill or be killed. War is beautiful and conquest is utopia. Fascists regard the government and the country as the same thing--The State--and they are totally dedicated to it. They tend to be intolerant of minorities, and they want a strong, charismatic leader." Hey, RetPDDet, awhile back on another thread we were kicking around the idea of the existence of the non-radicalized Muslim. I posted figures from a book (which you tore into) that said that Muslim extremists numbered in the 7% to 37% range. I stated that I really didn't know what the percentage is, but I pulled the number 50% out of the air. I asked you if you thought there was any such thing as a nonradicalized Muslim. You were pretty clear on what you thought. I'm thinking that your response pretty much identifies you as a fascist under Maybury's definition of fascism. I mean if there's no such thing as a good Muslim, then I guess the only thing left is to get a strong leader in there who will utilize something like the Final Solution, or the nuclear option, or whatever is necessary? "No, there is absolutely no such animal as a non-radicalized muslim. I would much easier accept that a 900 lbs Bengal Tiger could coexist with my granddaughter. Before I would accept that a muslim could coexist with an American citizen under a democracy. I would suggest to you Gman that America, stop thinking of muslims continuing to live peaceably in America under our democracy. Once their numbers in America reach the 10% tipping point that experts cite, as their time frame to resort to violence, ethnic cleansing and the implementation sharia, [eg; England, France, Germany, Philippines, Indonesia]." http://theerant.yuku.com/topic/46148/long--neo-conservatives---invasion-occupation--stabilizatio?page=1
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lawmanbrooklyn		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13842 Dec 19 11 12:11 PM	Remove this ad Of course you did not address my two points. A country with millions of illegals living in open defiance of the law can hardly be called facist. And our extremely liberal court system that sees most defendants walk out the door is hardly facist. And if this was a facist country , you would hardly be free to badmouth the Federal GOverment while cashing their check every month. No Forrest, this is a FREE country, you are safe to continue to spread anti-Ameican propaganda. No member of law enforcement should ever join the NRA after they referred to federal law enforcement as 'jack booted thugs'. Thats when George H.W. Bush publicly quit. There are other gun rights lobbying groups that do not demean our fellow law enforcement officers. Its one thing to attack the laws or the lawmakers, but I will not join a group that demeans fellow law enforcement officers.
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